Space rock or Alien Ship ?
Whats up with the object named Oumuamua?
(interstellar object 1i/2017U1 formerly A1/2017U1 or C/2017u1
('U1' means unknown shape)
NASA has detected the FIRST EVER object from outside
our solar-system coming from the milky way galaxy.
It was spotted (they say) on Oct 19 2017,
by the PANSTARRS telescope in Hawaii which is an
infrared survey of more than 700,000 asteroids in our galaxy.
Or 2017-10-14 according to nasa,
The object passed the sun in September 2017 and just shot past earth in October at
a distance of .0959AU(wikipedia) which is about 23.9 times the lunar distance.
It has a length of about 429 Meters (about 1374 feet)
BUT it's about 13.68 times longer than it is wide!
(according to it's brightness as it rotates)
There seems to be virtually no way it can be a
natural object with such a long or thin shape.
The nearly 1 million known asteroids only go
to about 3 to 1 in length.
So it's very unlikely that it occurred naturally.
And they named it 'Oumuamua' which nobody knows how to pronounce.
I may be the first person to admit getting photons from the galaxy.
(which you can see on a clear night)
But this paper analyzes what we know about this thing.
Here is a data based graphic showing its light curve
and the 13.6 to 1 aspect ratio.
I worked out the brightness/size calculations.
The smallest it can be would be a penny shape.
But here are both long and flat possibilities.
Current wiki MOID .0959
(nearest distance in AU (sun-to-earth units))
Based on average (wiki) magnitude of 22.8
Long 1374.04 ft Length (429 m)
13.5 to 1 100.44 ft small end ( 31.3 m)
Round 419.29 ft diam. (131 m)
Thickness 24.06 ft Height ( 7.5 m)
It has the shape of a pencil or a piece of slate. But at 1500 times larger its
mass would be more than 3 Billion times as much yet its strength would only be 2
million times as much. (cubed vs squared) So a planetary collision would be like
chipping a piece of slate with a stick of dynamite. It would pulverize it.
We don't know what could produce such a thing.
I found the color formula.
(The color values were in logarithmic differences.)
So the color changed just a shade.
But it's pretty much the same as my first approximation.
Still basically 'wiener purple'.
A new numeric fit gives RGB(206, 134, 144) with 80% saturation.
That's this background.
That also matches a shade of anodized titanium.
Here it is at the expected 52% albedo
Here it is at 69% saturation
Here it is at 81% saturation = scaled to red 206/255)
Here it is at 91% saturation). (indoor light)
Current size calculations estimate 95% (albedo) shown here. (71% fullness)
The sun is very bright. (This scales red up to 254)
And this gives the current conservative estimate of size.
If it were darker, then it must be larger to emit that much light.
For the mathematically inclined the measured values for color are below.
The colors are given in logarithmic differences as follows:
B-V= -2,5*log(Blue brightness/Visual Brightness)
g-r= -2,5*log(Green brightness/Red Brightness)
V-R= -2,5*log(visual brightness/Red Brightness)
(this is done because the numbers have lots of zeros,
its a very fait object being 24 times farther
and not 2,162 miles wide like the moon.
The -2.5 scales it to the old method of visual sighting.
But the negative sign makes the log positive so its
easy to write down without the minus sign.
So much for that.
The brightest frequencies are variable and
appear to be iridescent in this color and albedo. Subtracting them rgb(132,30,28)
from 134,87,93 leaves.
Subtracting the above rgb(132,30,28) bands
(estimated 10% of the spectrum) from the 52% albedo color (134,87,93) leaves only
this color, 121,84,90. Roughly the color of titanium powder but heavily infused
with ions of all other kinds. (dirt)
And removing 20% brown dirt, (and correcting 20% light) compares closely with
Combining them returns it to the 52% albedo (which may be too dark but would
indicate a larger 'object' (compensating for lack of light with size) this would
multiply the 1374 feet by .95/.52 making it 2,510 feet. About a half mile long.
I tried factoring the first color approximation into possible components. For
instance, if the ship were painted in red white and blue. (that possibility is
Color factoring is very difficult without using an actual spectral chart and
actual color bands to make choices from. (below)
(nobody has talked about that yet either. it should be really clear i its
titanium or not. They just say.. "rocky or metal". Uh yea.
Or maybe some red and blue (above and below)are subtracted are added to Green
creating this white component here. (using the new color)
(1/4th of the green is distributed between red and blue also)
Blue like this.
The old color
|Or here the green is piled onto the red
no green here
|and and blue all alone.
The old color
|Or here the just the red
|and With Green And Blue together.
The old color
|Or And here is red and blue together
|and With green all alone and black again below. Who knows?
The color calculation are based on a spectral chart and a web app for RGB
wavelengths. I had to eyeball the chart and to scale yellow and orange and violet
as weighted components (i.e you wouldn't want to make ten samples of yellow and only one of red blue and green. So v, y and o are scaled accordingly.
Its pretty similar at 95% saturation.
THE COLOR, 95% saturation again,
It looks lighter here because we used a dark shade above.
Cover the three bands of color (above),
and this color appears the same as above.
The colors represent portions of the spectrum.
violet blue green orange red near-infra-red and longer infra-red.
v B G y o R i J
The color values are given in logarithms (the number of zeros)
for the 'magnitude of brightness' and some are inverted.
So this page-color is pretty accurate now.
So, "warm pink".
A NASA guy tells me that this is common for stuff floating in space,
to turn red because it gets micro sandblasted and absorbs colors like yellow and
green for some reason. But I've never seen that, so it could be he other
way around as far as I know.
A note on the Spectrum
The above Spectral chart shows clear iridescence in the 419 band.
This is repeated as it has highly variable reflectance at 839 and and 1258.
These appear to be multiples of the pitting caused by gamma particles over
hundreds of thousands of years.
The chart also gives the temperature. The highest band of output is about 1500nm.
For most objects the highest band gives the temperature because the spectral curve
elongates when the object is warm. Things glow in longer frequencies when hotter.
This is covered below.
We now have the task of matching the rest of the spectrum to see if
the other lines match some known material. Currently, nobody seems
to know what the "object" is made of.
The Plot Thickens
Nobody seems to have a radio image of it, which is strange
because astronomers make pictures of asteroids all the time.
Like this one:
A month after passing earth, it's about 100 Million miles away.
Even 5 times as far as its passing, the deep field telescope should
be able to resolve a 20 pixel image.
When it is far away we should be able to get a picture from its
changing light signature as it rotates. This is because it reflects,
absorbs and emits light and heat. Those equations must balance and reflections
are directional. Putting all that together gives a picture of the
rotating object in differing lighting conditions as it rotates.
(I'm available if nobody has done this yet.)
Other technology allows a doppler image from a single radar pulse, since at least
the early 80s. This is the way dolphins see things with sound. So its vitally
important for radio telescopes to listen in the kilo hrz frequencies emitted by the
sun to get good data for a Doppler reconstruction. (which I presume already exists)
University of Hawaii released a 'yellow band' spectrum image.
But this appears to be filtered through excess yellow-orange or (V) spectrum.
Currently the government claims to deduce the object's Oblong nature
from the changing light it "emits" and "reflects" (and absorbs).
From this they deduce the 10 to 1 length.
Oddy, nobody ever mentions that it COULD BE round.
So someone apparently knows its its the shape of a couple railroad cars end to
But 'apparently' has the 'proportions' of a quarter or a penny.
Nothing out there in the solar-system has that proportions
of a pen or a frizby. Its all 3 to 1 at most.
Using the readings from (Bannister), (21.8 to 24.6) magnitude:
That's magnitude and brightness as m1-m2 = -2.5*Log(b1/b2)
and that's 10^((m1-m2)/-2.5) = ((b1/b2)= 13.1
THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS:
(see above size calculations )
31m * 31m * 429m ( 100 * 100 * 1374 ft )
Or if its round:
7.5m * 131m ( 24ft * 419ft )
I / \
I | |
I | |
This is a football field:
_____ (125 * 300ft)
So where's the image?
A search revealed, it might be this object(which is attributed to astroid called
To me, that looks a lot like this:
That image LOOKS AS IF IT'S THE "10 to 1" OBJECT!
Apparently, no other asteroids are that long.
So it's unclear if this is actually the image.
Other images of sd220 look like a 'fat arrowhead' and not a sharp pencil.
So it looks like a coverup. They don't even match.
I straightened this image up a bit and got this.
And that looks a lot like this.
Here it is in 'red':
So, is that the one from outside our solar system?
( 1L/2017 U1 (also called A/2017/u1 or c/2017u1))
Well it appears to have come into our solar-system a few
years ago and to have passed nearest the sun
on September 9th 2017. (inside the orbit of mercury)
and Flew past us on Oct, 26 2017. And was re-designated
from comet to Asteroid as A/2017U1. And then to A1/2017U1.
My thumbnail calculation puts it at its closest on Sept 5th though.
(This is according to the wiki angle data of 241.7 which is simply
241.7(deg)*365.2563(days)/360(deg)=245.22(days) but the earth is closest to
the sun about jan 3. so that's 3 days later than sept 2 (give or take a leap year).
Oumuamua got pretty Hot.
Investigating the object, I estimated its average temperature
as it passed the sun.
I base this on the temperature of the moon and mercury. (which have no atmosphere)
My calculations suggest that the correct equation is
Rotating body average temperature
T = (Lunar temp) * (Object Distance(in AU))^-.6826
The moon temp is (max+min)/2 or 236.5k (-35.6c)
So the moon would be 236.5 * 1^.6826 or 236.5
And mercury ( 179C 452k or 354f ) would be about 452k/236.5k
So mercury is 1.911 times as hot as the moon.
or 236.5* 1/((.386)^(-.6826)) or 452.9k
For Oumuamua that's 236.5k * 1/((.25 AU)^(.6826)) = 609.25k
So rotating Oumuamua should have been about 609.25k (336.1c) or 637f.
Thats pretty hot but it would only need a couple feet of aerogel insulation to stay
If it is powered then it may be from gama radiation in space. A hundred particles
per second collide with every square centimeter. And they are at 10 GigaVolts.
So there is about 25 Watts of energy. About 219 Iphones. Perhaps the brain of the
craft. Maybe 1000 times more efficient. So one good brain.
However a simple fusion technology is a more likely answer for a living community
with little need for large spaces. That woud provide massive amounts of energy.
But how much energy do you need as super cold temperatures?
An intermediate amount of energy is available at a solar crossing.
Given its size 1375*100 and 600 degrees f,
the object could generate about
(divided by two for the short end exposure)
(divided by two for efficiency of a simple steam engine)
(didived by 150,000 the BTU equivalent of a gallon of oil)
Thats about 13,740 gallons of oil per hour.
It took about a month to cross the sun.
So that's about 9,892,800 gallons of oil equivalent.
A BTU is about .2931 watt hours.
Now that has to last the next half million years.
(those are about 356*24 hours long)
So it would only have about 99 watts of power all the time.
An Iphone uses about 1Kw per year. So this machine could hold
about 867 working Iphones.
Microbots to keep it in repair would need some of that energy.
Maybe they use the extra 73 watts that the brain(s) don't use.
It's still gathering energy though.
So it might be ten times that or more.
The daylight (max) surface temperature can be seen
from the spectral chart (above) because the surface
is heated fully by the sun. That equation is simply:
f * T = 1.898*10^-3
so 1.898*10-3 / 1500*10^-9 (1500 nanometers) = 1265k (or 992c)
(Thats about double the average temp est of 609k above)
How did we miss it?
So how did everybody miss it until now?
And why is there no established picture?
Is there an Oumuamua coverup?
I found no other reported temperature -which is odd.
SD220 is said to be 3600ft long (nobody lists this any more) and
its scheduled to pass Earth on Dec 24 2018. at about 6.8 Lunar distances.
But which one is from out there beyond Pluto?
The so called "dark red" object was thought to be a comet and was
initially called C/2017 U1. But I have not seen any data
suggesting a tail. So I wondered if perhaps it was powered
for a time and that's what someone saw. It appears to have been
called a comet because it was brightly colored and had a highly elliptical
This poses another mix-up.. how dark is it? .50%, .10%, 90% ?
And how can they know its size if they don't know how dark it actually is?
It could be really dark and ten times bigger.
Or really bright white and smallish.
Or middle grey and about the size of starship enterprize.
We are supposed to know exactly because we pay for all these
infra-red and optical telescopes etc..
If the ship is shinny then it would leave a 36 second spike in the intensity.
Nobody is talking about anything useful. I feel the planet is going daft.
We simply don't know what it is.
(The albedo info seems to be missing on this NASA page:
unlike say, this asteroid:
So coverup is the logical answer. "we dont know nothing, do we boss?"
Whatever it is, it comes from either: a "higher power",
or a "higher technology". So it's all good.
Well there's more.
The charts of its path look like it is powered! This is
supposed to be because of poor perspective in the graphic.
But it's pretty annoying and looks like acceleration
or missing mass at the locus of the hyperbola.
The incoming trajectory is also missing from Wikipedia!
But I found that to be listed as:
18:44Hrs by 34.5(degrees)
(Vega is 18:36Hrs by 34.8(deg))
But Vega was about 50 degrees distant back then..
One source indicated it radiated from U=11.3, V=-22.3 and w=-7.6.
It appears to be headded toward 23:51'(hrs?) by 24:45'(deg?).
But thats all technical.
The simulator folks seem to have a prety good
handle where stars are comming and going over
hundreds of thousands of years.
And I recently heard on youtube that the thing
may have come from a star called TYC-4742.1021.
But I am gathering gather my sources.
They say it flew in from near Vega and out with trajectories
(points in the sky for comming and going) differing by "66 degrees"
but I got about 15 Degrees.. So stay tuned...)
If the object went off at exactly 90 degrees from arrival,
then I'd say it was probably a mapping probe
out to get a nice parallax view of the galaxy.
Interestingly they now say its tumbling.
But thats what it woudl do if it were mapping the sky.
This woudl make sense as a protector craft, mapping future colissions for us.
but with a super quantum computior they could also
perturb the solar system just right to cause a metor impact.
But they are more likley checking to avoid causing one.
Any perturbation of a stable system like ours is likley to be dangerous.
Things get a certain way and its often good to keep them that way.
Talking over billions of years here.
Now given that many stars travel 50 degrees in that time span,
they might be headed to wherever their home now is.
But I think hundreds of thousands of years out in space
would preclude their need to return home.
They should be able to scoop up a few grams of hydrogen between stars.
And all the elements needed for life.
So theres no power requirement.
And they would most likely be very self sufficient.
The ship would be their planet. Just passing by.
My calculations (Christmas 2017) show the ship should be
able to steer, changing course by a half a million
miles per light-year with just a star chart, gyro and good reckoning.
if you're going into a space ship for hundreds of thousands
or billions of years. You need to steer clear of stars.
Such a community could potentially land if it had enough time to maneuver
into an earth orbit then slowly change its course amid the complex chaotic
tides of the planets. This would take centuries or longer.
But they are in no hurry if they left a star a million years ago.
In my mind this is about equal to the gravity ejecta.
tide lifting a plate of rock into extra solar orbit.
Some tidal simulations should be conducted but its got to be rare.
And wow, the first thing we see is a tidal rock?
If a shinny metal object flies past your house, its probably a human vessel.
If not then its a space ship.
Gravity lifted rocks are an unprooven third choice.
We know space ships exist because we make them too.
I have all but given up trying to figure out how a 400Ft wide penny
or a 1/4 mile hotdog got accidentally hurlled into space.
Its an odd shape and odd color.
And the kinds of colissions that lift stuff into space
are fantastically intense. Hurled to many times the speed of sound instantly.
A super long brick rarely survives slow geologic upheaval.
If it were natural we shold see these things in our own solarsystem.
Researchers note there is no tail or dust normally associated with
astroids or comets! (*)
One theory is that a wide flat plate could be ejected into space
with a gravity pull during a near miss collision.
But we dont see any here so that suggests that such objects
would only be trans solar, or that we have never had that
kind of colission here.
So perhaps its from a type of collisions that is less
common and we never had such a planetary collision.
This theory is dependent on it being some kind of rock.
But there is almost no data to support its composition.
If it's natural then its from the last 14.6 Billion years (depending on your
If its not natural then its from the last 5 or 10 billion years (give or take).
It could have passed thousands of stars like ours.
We know nothiing. But we can know more.
The thing can be modeled and pictured.
If anyonw is taking data on a constant basis.
Its weight and size and color can be known.
I can tell you how this is done on computor.
But it would take a team to compute.
So the question is who are they?
/it maybe its luxuriantly blue in their starsystem.
Note we see the sun as "white" but they could be from a pink or blue star.
(or maybe both) The color is simple.
But simplicity is a hallmark of advanced technology.
(For instance, this page is hand edited html btw, should load in a second.)
Unless they have 'hyper drive' (whatever that might be)
then they are very old or it may have to be robots living on it
with some kind of fusion power, perhaps caring for a massive time-capsule.
Maybe a Space Museum. Or Millions of virtual-reality lives.
Though, it looks like a giant telescope.
What do you want to do with all the technology and time in the world?
Save another planet? See the universe?
Is it just a passing space friend who wishes not to disturb a whole planet
with any groundbreaking discovery of exo-inteligence?
If you were passing matagasgar in a ship, would you hail them on radio knowing
you cannot stop and dont speak the language?
We dont seem to know much.
The news media didn't help when everyone began making lots of
"artist conceptions" like this doobie-shaped drawing.
We dont even know if its long --do we?
Maybe its the shape (and flame birnished color) of a penny.
too bad its mooving so fast. It would be worth a lot.
It all looks like the overt propaganda that you'd expect
if a space ship went past the sun and government didn't feel
like talking about it.
The 1300 foot wiener "thing" may be from a nova
blast which ripped away the outer shell of asteroid leaving
a really long unnatural shape.
Another scenerio is that passing many stars left it distorted.
Possible melting iron, nickle, coper, aluminum, titanium dripping
to the ends of the slowly rotating object, surface tension keeping it togeather.
But that dynamic scenerio does not seem to work for a stable object.
It would eventually break apart, not get that long.
We'd need to simulate it.
The math is about 1 neuton/meter of force over the surface.
Try spinning a giant blob of molten steel at 1 rotation per 7 or 8 hours?
This may hold as a flame rounded object from forever. (be sure to quote me)
But I think its unstable.
It could also be an ocean-liner hurled into space by a planetary collision
millions of years ago.
It could be a message to the future from a long ago civilization.
Artificial or not,
Usefull or not,
Working or not,
Hostile or not,
Benevolent or not.
Lets hope we can find out.
Maybe it's just a really really old civilization who's watching.
Why launch a "long red monolith"? Maybe its just funny.
Excentric martian billianre launches 200 thousand year prank?
Hard to estimate the probability.
It if is an intelligently created object, then I hope our visitors
from "out there" are happy and enjoying their mega engineering.
Maybe the massive thing is a test to see if they could wipe us out.
Or more likely just a friendly hello designed not to cause too much
excitement -just enough to inspire the governments of the world to
cooperate for post technological survival.
Or to drop off harmless spores for life in case we didn't arrive.
In any case, we appear to have missed the chance to catch it and see
the hieroglyphics and video inside. Just guessing.
If there's anyone 'on-Board' then they may be robotic. But there could be a
sophisticated community in a smaller space. They'd have more room than a mars
It might be a dark rock that has a light rock stuck to it.
But the lack of photos seems to indicate something more.
The Simple truth is that 14 to 1 is really long. Longer than a Saturn V Rocket.
It would have to be as flat as a penny, or long as a three inch drywall screw (or a
pen) to be 13.5 to 1.
The Ubie vaporizer is 9 to 1 in length.
Is it an Ubie from space!?
If it's just a rock from God, then maybe it has the same function.
To remind us that we need fair trade equality and him. (honesty and kindness)
Could it be so simple?
The fly-by of sd220 is scheduled at 2Pi times the lunar radius, a nice thought.
But we don't know much about 1i/2017u1.
Presumably careful control could slingshot a carved astroid across space with
very little initial power. The giant totem would be visible but would need power
to accurately hit earth. Similarlly, an advanced inteligence coulf perturb out
solar system to prevent an astroid colission. Maybe they have.
But either way it missed us. So I guess they could , but didn't. Thats nice.
But why send a thing out into forever?
It could be a colony of forever-travelers like our planned mars explorers.
Why not just go beyond? Only a tiny amount of power should be needed to avoid
hitting the next star. A magnettic field may suffice. It could be a botanical
garden or a billion AI beings in a simulation.
But there would be few resources to say hello with. They might not be able to
stop, but would be able to steer -- something we can't do on earth. So they might
be safer than we are, just by ricocheting around the stars. If we ever have AI
people then they might like the idea of getting away from it all.
It could be an escape pod. The Red color might best reflect Hydrogen light from
their exploding star. And the pointy shape does look exactly like an elongated
fishing float which would resist the expanding star gas.
(I don't yet know if it's possible to survive a nova)
But how did it form ?
Maybe it is a message in a bottle. Just saying 'we Are here'. (Or were here.)
A show of peace, or force, or just the desire to contact others in the future?
I hope we determine its nature. Some suggest we could catch-up and get a look at
And I think we should try. We don't know if there will be another chance.
Somewhere out there,
Let me know what you think.